Session 3.4 - Talking points and effective group work
The OER4Schools Professional Learning Resource
Learning intentions and objectives.
In this session you will learn about:
- using talking points to support productive, open-ended discussion
- learning more about effective groupwork practices
Success criteria.
To meet the learning intentions you will:
- discuss group work using talking points
ICT components.
The ICT components you will focus on are
- Planning of another lesson with ICT (Geogebra / slideshow / concept mapping / spreadsheets), for open-ended tasks
Classroom based activities (with your students, after this session):
- you will ...
Review of follow-up activities from last session
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Talking points on statements about group work
Whole class dialogue(a) with talking points(a) (15 min): Discussing statements about group work. Discuss (in groups of 4 or 5 for the first 5 minutes) whether the following statements about group work (talking points) are ‘true’, ‘false’ or ‘not sure’. Explain your reasoning. Tick (“V”) if your group agrees that they are true, cross (“X”) if your group agrees that they are false and question mark (“?”) if your group is not sure.
- Group work should finish in one lesson.
- Groups should be formed with the same pupils every time.
- Teacher should assist pupils for effective group work.
- All pupils in the group should be active during group work.
- Noise is not acceptable during group work.
- Agreements and disagreements are inevitable during group work.
- Mixed pace groups are better than same pace groups.
- Group work should always promote competition amongst different groups.
- Group work by pupils is free time for the teacher.
- Effective group work needs planning and preparation by the teacher before the lesson.
Discuss (as a whole group for the next 10 minutes) each talking point mentioned above. Each group should be prepared to explain their stance on any point, giving their reasons.
Circulate during the first 5 minutes and listen for lively discussions that you can refer to during the whole class dialogue. Remember, be selective when taking feedback from groups. Ask questions like:
- Does any group disagree with what this group has said?
- Does any group feel particularly strongly about any of the talking points?
Use the responses to these types of questions to build the whole group discussion/whole class dialogue.
Expect disagreements amongst groups about certain talking points. This is actually productive for the whole group as it promotes further discussion.
Encourage reasoning for all talking points. Get participants to explain why they agree or disagree with something?
Finally explain the concept of talking points: The above points stimulated participants discussion about group work. In the same way, you can use talking points in the classroom, e.g. when discussing a science topic.
Also remind the participants of the idea of "modelling": We use similar techniques in the workshops sessions to what we would use in the classroom.
About talking points
Talking points
What are they?
Talking points are deliberately thought-provoking statements for discussion and reasoning in small groups.
Why use them?
Research shows that using talking points is an effective strategy to promote conceptual learning in a target area for the following reasons:
- They structure the group task yet keep the discussion open-ended. This is because pupils discuss the points but are free to contribute their own understanding /opinion about the point. In other words, the task is well-defined as well as interactive.
- They help pupils to discuss different aspects of a concept by providing cues for discussion.
- They help to maintain the focus of discussion.
Planning a classroom activity with talking points
Same-task group work (15 min): Pair work on talking points. Work in pairs or threes with same-grade colleagues. Decide on a topic that you will be teaching this week. In the activity template, write down the talking points for that topic. Write at least 10 statements - some of which are true, some are false and some can either be true or false, depending on certain factors. Here are some ideas:
- Things stop when they run out of force.
- Light can travel through water, air, and space.
- Sound can travel through water, air, and space.
- Things that give out light (like the sun) are always hot.
- Dark is a form of energy that is weaker than light.
- There is no gravity above the earth’s atmosphere.
- The air is too light to be affected by the earth’s gravity.
- You can reduce pressure by spreading weight out over a larger area.
- Money causes a lot of problems for people.
- Poor people are lazy.
- Some people, like footballers, get paid too much.
- There is never a good reason to steal money.
- Throwing rubbish into a pit is a good way of getting rid of it.
- You cannot throw things away, because there is no such place as ‘away’.
- Recycling means that you don’t cause any damage to the environment.
- The best way of getting from one town to another is by plane.
- Trains are a really slow way of travelling.
- Heating food is the same as burning it.
You can look at this website http://thinkingtogether.educ.cam.ac.uk/resources/ to learn more about talking points
Effective group work practices
Research on co-operative learning methods (by Bob Slavin and colleagues) has long established that pupils learn mathematics significantly better if they work in small groups structured in a specific way. That is, they learn best if
- they work in 4-member groups (with mixed performance levels) toward a common goal;
- achieving that goal depends on the individual learning of all team members.
The group size of course depends on the task that you are doing, but often a group size of around 4 seems to work well in the Zambian context.
Individual accountability.(Relates to: LfL, ) Children might be assessed separately, and the group score then depends on those individual performances – individual accountability leading to team scores. Individual assessment is the most common scenario, i.e. children are given a brief quiz, where group members cannot help. Or there could be a random process (“random reporter”): “Number 2s should now represent their teams.” Teacher doesn’t know who the number 2s are, but the children do, and the corresponding children respond, justifying their answers etc. They in turn do not know in advance which number will be chosen - so everyone has to be ready or the team will not succeed!
Whole class dialogue (10 min) on structuring group work and individual accountability. How would you structure group work, to encourage individual accountability?
You can link individual accountability to the use of mini blackboards. Learners could hold up mini blackboards or use another technique.
Team building exercises. You are forming “unlikely” groups (boys/girls, different achievement, different ethnic origins), so team building is needed. Take some account of friendship if conflicts may cause difficulties.
Whole class dialogue (5 min): Brainstorm on team building. What activities can you think of that you can use for team building?
ICT practice: Different-tasks group work with ICT and activity planning
Different-tasks group work (20 min) with ICT on various topics. As usual, you now have an opportunity to work on your own ICT skills. In this session, we introduce Spreadsheets with OpenOffice Calc.
As you work on your ICT skills, you should think about planning another lesson with ICT (involving spreadsheets, Geogebra, slideshows, concept mapping). Remember to keep up the typing tutor practice too!
Here are some exercises for spreadsheets to get you started. In this session, you might only try to do the first few of these exercises. You will have an opportunity to continue this in your own time and in the next session.
This activity will orientate you to make use of OpenOffice for creating
spreadsheets and databases which can be useful for investigating maths
and science problems. You will need to access a
computer/laptop/netbook and internet. Access a web browser and
navigate to this page: http://inpics.net/calc.html
We suggest that you go through some of the exercises on the page in this order:
1. Basic Calculations
2. Formatting Worksheets
3. Manipulating Data
- Move, copy, and paste
- Add / delete columns
- Add / delete rows
- Employ multiple worksheets
- Employ AutoFill
- Insert / delete worksheets
4. Advanced Calculations
5. Making Data Visible
You can print this content on a separate sheet here: OER4Schools/Spreadsheet exercises.
Connecting with overarching goals of the programme
Open space (10 min). It's now time for the "open space", that gives you an opportunity to discuss issues that have arisen, and to relate those to the broader context of the programme. Do not just gloss over this section, but make time to raise issues, and probe the progress that you are making. You could use this space to:
- Remind yourselves of the of the Most Significant Change Technique, and e.g. collect more of your stories.
- Discuss your assessment portfolios: Is there anything that you are unsure about? Is it going well? What could be done better?
- Check on the work with the classroom assistants: Is this going well? Are there any tensions? Any observations or tips you can share?
- Reviewing individual ICT practise (such as typing practise).
- If you are preparing a presentation for other teachers, you could work on the presentation (about what you have been learning, stories emerging from MSC).
- Remind those who are doing audio diaries, to upload them.
- You could discuss any other issues that have arisen.
You will find notes and summaries of various techniques and concepts on our reference page, and you might want to refer to those for clarification during this activity if needed.
Observing, thinking, reflecting (10 min): We hear a Zambian teacher's audio reflection on the 10 talking points about group work.
We now listen to a clip that was recorded after the teacher (Agnes) had taken part in a previous version of this session. She is reflecting on the talking points and recording her own thoughts as a result of having taken part in a discussion like the one you took part in at the beginning of this session. In a subsequent recording for her portfolio, Agness elaborates and reflects further on her own personal use of talking points in the classroom. Listen to this short excerpts from that recording.
“Using of talking point in the lesson, it is so encouraging to both teacher and learners. This is so because it enables a lot of interactivity to the learners because they are able to discuss, argue and agree as a group. ‘Talking points’ also make learners not to lose track when they are discussing as a group because every learner is very attentive to hear what their friend is saying in a group.”
Agnes audio diary - talking points:
AUDIO
Agness audio diary - talking points.mp3
The description of the video
Agness audio diary - talking points.mp3, 1:23,(Series: OER4Schools audio, episode N/A)
Transcript for clip 1: Video/Agnes audio diary - talking points.mp3/transcript
Agnes portfolio recording - talking points: Video/Agnes portfolio recording - talking points.mp3
Transcript for clip 2: Video/Agnes portfolio recording - talking points.mp3/transcript
Whole class dialogue (10 min): Discussion of the audio clips. What are the main differences between the two clips in terms of the depth of the teacher's reflection? Remind yourselves of the audio diary guidance and think of ways that these audio recording could have been improved so as to highlight more explicitly the teacher's own learning journey in respect to using talking points to improve teaching and learning.
Follow-up activities
Agreeing follow-up activities (5 min).
Try out your 10 talking points.
- Form mixed-pace groups of 4 students.
- Start with a team building activity of your choice.
- Set up the discussion – framed by some controversial talking points and using a technique to ensure individual accountability. (For example, ask every child to participate and explain you will pick [students won’t choose!] one from each group later on to report their own opinion and how it may have changed through the discussion.
- Encourage students to explain their reasoning and understanding to peers, ensuring that everyone understands and any gaps are identified and addressed. This is cooperative learning; students are expected to help each other learn.
- Monitor the groups to ensure this is happening and that there are no ‘free riders’ or individuals dominating the discussion.
Computer tasks.
- Remember to keep practising your typing skills! (The awarding of a certificate at the end of the course will also depend on your typing skills!)
- Find and download images that could be used in conjunction with talking points.
In the next session, these follow-up activities will be reviewed. If you are using this session on its own, you can have a look at the review of follow-up activities here.
At the end of each session, we provide an overview of the activities in this session, together with their suggested timings. Although this appears at the end of the session (for technical reasons), you should keep an eye on this throughout the session, to make sure that you are pacing the workshop session appropriately!
Total time: 100 (min)
Activities in this session:
- Whole class dialogue(a) with talking points(a) (15 min): Discussing statements about group work.
- Same-task group work (15 min): Pair work on talking points.
- Whole class dialogue (10 min) on structuring group work and individual accountability.
- Whole class dialogue (5 min): Brainstorm on team building.
- Different-tasks group work (20 min) with ICT on various topics.
- Open space(10 min).
- Observing, thinking, reflecting (10 min): We hear a Zambian teacher's audio reflection on the 10 talking points about group work.
- Whole class dialogue (10 min): Discussion of the audio clips.
- Agreeing follow-up activities(5 min).
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